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BobC

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Girls U18

The girls have a good technical skill base. One of our main themes this year has been passing & moving. Lots of work moving without the ball, getting into good support position, "showing" for the ball, etc. They have made a lot of progress so far.

I believe our next step is to improve our speed of play within the short-passing possession style of play. I have explained to the girls that speed of play does not mean panic-kicking or just getting rid of the ball immediately. It's about moving the ball quickly, getting it to the next player with the minimum about of touches. If they are going to pass anyway, pass with one or two touches instead of 4-5-6 touches.

How could rondos be used to teach increasing the speed of play? What other activities could be used?


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You are dead on with your assessment: this is what it looks like in a game:
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Enganche, I think a Positional Possession Rondo is perfect for what he describes. 

10v4, play with two target players at the each end of an 35x25 area. Deploy the ten players (including the targets) in a series of stacked diamonds. 

The defenders provide enough resistance to require increased speed of play. While having an objective of moving the ball forward, but without forcing it or being impatient. 
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This:Positional Possession Rondo 10 attackers.jpg
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Progression:  
Rondo's with no direction,
Rondo's with direction
Rondo through the thirds (as Enganche has shown)
Rondo in the final third (combinations to score).

People debate what Rondo is, for me it is keeping possession (through the thirds) to go forward and create a scoring opportunity.

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It's great against teams that park the bus too, draw them in and then execute the through ball. There are hundreds of Rondo variations, but only about 20 or so really useful.

Another Example:
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Good thoughts so far guys. To introduce this, last night I started the session with two different round setups. Two defenders in the middle the rest were passers. Any steal of the ball or out of the circle we would reset (not change players) and go again. Change roles every 5 minutes.

Phase 1, the passers were positioned around the perimeter and were "static", defenders could move freely, pressure the ball and try to steal passes. Ping the ball around quickly using 1-2 touches, keeping it moving before defensive pressure arrives.

Phase 2. passers could move around the perimeter of the circle.

Phase 3, passers move & pass freely within the circle.

The girls did well with it. We ended with a scrimmage emphasizing short/quick passing, lots of movement/off-ball support. It looked pretty good. We're doing part two of this tomorrow night, your ideas are helping me get my plan and coaching points together.

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This:Positional Possession Rondo 10 attackers.jpg


do you have software to create this?
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Tactics Manager, simple to use, slightly better than Session Planner.
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But in the real world who can do it like that?

I prefer pass and move. Make a pass move to receive a pass.

First using one defender then moving to two defenders.

How much of a game related game are they actually playing. Pass and move is very game related.

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You're referring to Bob's plan? Or Positional futbol in general?

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But in the real world who can do it like that? I prefer pass and move. Make a pass move to receive a pass. First using one defender then moving to two defenders. How much of a game related game are they actually playing. Pass and move is very game related.
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It's like a real game. Players have positions and they form diamonds with their teammates but they are always adjusting their positioning. At least as how I run it in practice, the outside players mostly move up and down the line to open up. The targets move laterally on the ends. They can check to the ball. 
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Then why show videos like the ones on this thread?
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So you're saying there's no way a positional rondo in the diagram can get a team to playing like the video?
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There are hundreds of Rondo variations, but only about 20 or so really useful.

So which 20/do you think are useful, and why?

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MOVING Rondos is the logical prgression from static circle Rondos (or even square)

Barcelona progress this to what they refer to as "Circular Triangles" - players in small groups of 3 positioned in triangles where they 'circulate' (constantly move around in circles while keeping the triangle shape)
Rondo's by themselves are good tehcniqur builders as they develop fast technique in short passing with the added pressure from 'pressuring defenders'

Finding ways to progress good drills or functions into actual match play is one of the main task of coaches.

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Bob, Pace of Play has become the most demanded topic for our camps in recent years. With many of the teams we work with ... well, they really are not Soccer IQ ready for the type of rondos shown in some of these videos. We have broken it down to a simple form using some old familiar activities to get them started. Basic keys are as follow:

1) Get in your teammates vision early: We stress multiple decision soccer. If you wish to be played the ball from player "A" be in her vision before she has the ball.

2) Know your next play before your first touch: Ties in with #1 above. The receiver of the ball must know where she is going to play before her first touch of the ball. This allows her to properly position herself to effectively and efficiently play the ball.

3) Receive across the body or be a back footed player (as we call it) whenever possible. There can be exceptions to this, obviously.

4) Play the way you face.

We using the numbers passing game and the pinnies pass game to implement these ideas. It can take a 3-5 sessions before they really get the hang of it, but once they do it is a beautiful thing to see. We start everything with two touch play but one touch play creeps in rather quickly on individual basis. We do rondos after having dome these warm ups. Start simple and build up of course. Might be 4 v 1 or 5 v 2. If the group is more advanced 2 v 2 v 2 or 3 v 3 v 3. We move into larger group play 5 v 5 active inside an area with another team of 5 outside. "X" number of consecutive passes by team in possession allows them to play out to the third team who enters in. Can also develop into target play or flank play to provide direction. We also use breakout games to simulate moments of play in a given area of the pitch.

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Good thoughts so far guys. To introduce this, last night I started the session with two different round setups. Two defenders in the middle the rest were passers. Any steal of the ball or out of the circle we would reset (not change players) and go again. Change roles every 5 minutes.

Phase 1, the passers were positioned around the perimeter and were "static", defenders could move freely, pressure the ball and try to steal passes. Ping the ball around quickly using 1-2 touches, keeping it moving before defensive pressure arrives.

Phase 2. passers could move around the perimeter of the circle.

Phase 3, passers move & pass freely within the circle.

The girls did well with it. We ended with a scrimmage emphasizing short/quick passing, lots of movement/off-ball support. It looked pretty good. We're doing part two of this tomorrow night, your ideas are helping me get my plan and coaching points together.


In my opinion the rondos isn't best way for exercise the quick of passages because the players are static most of times. According to me the best way for exercise the quick of passages are themes of games.
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May need to update your definition of "rondo", Gio. There's the basic ones in the video above but there are dozens of variations that involve a ton of movement. 

If it's "themes of games" that matter to you, then match your game play to the rondos you train. 
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