Although as coaches, we try and give specialist goalkeeper training to the teams GK/GKs, it can sometimes be counter productive in terms of synergising the GK with the team, especially the defenders, and also as a general social and psychological 'linking up'The main problem is that for most coaches, their experience of running drills/functions/ssg's that include the goalkeeper is limited.The GK should never be used as 'shot stoppers' to hone strikers shooting skills.What I have found beneficial is to separate the back 4 and GK pre-match and go through a simple passing drill, before the GK does more specific goalkeeping work. It has certainly improved the defensive cohesion in the ensuing match, especially when the GK collects the ball from a misplaced pass or just collecting the ball. The GK has expressed that he has more faith in his defence, and in turn the defenders are working that much harder to support him.
The little drill is:start positions: coach o
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The coach plays to the GK who collects it.AS the ball moves, BOTH L&R backs back pedal to go flat with the ball... LCB RCB
LB o RB GK .................................| |..............................The reason is that both the backs can now see play in front whereas the 2 centre backs will have their backs to play.The GK now rolls to the left or right back.AS the ball is moving to the back, the centre back NEAREST to the receiver back pedals to provide an angle of support in case the receiving back is pressured....i.e. Ball rolled to the right back LB LCB o RB RCB GK ...............................| |..............................
... the other centre back gets level with the ball while the opposite back (the LB here) also gets level with the ball.Now, the receiving back passes to the nearest CB, who plays to the other CB who plays to the opposite back (in this case it would be the LB.The LB would now pass to the coach who passes again to the GK who repeats the process the opposite way by rolling to the LB and all reposition etc.This is repeated for about 5 minutes, and then an option is introduced where the coach states that at ANY point in the sequence, they will yell "PRESS" and the receiving player must play back to the GK who kicks the ball first time to the coach (yes I know the coach is central but this is just rehearsing the point)After another 2 minutes, the defenders rejoin the main team while the GK continues their specific goalkeeping warm up.
What other ways do you integrate goalkeepers within team drills (apart from technical warm ups)????
"...The main problem is that for most coaches, their experience of running drills/functions/ssg's that include the goalkeeper is limited.The GK should never be used as 'shot stoppers' to hone strikers shooting skills...."
And your reply in the first paragraph explains your question to the word "never"Obviously you havent had seasons of specialist GK training in your sessions otherwise you would not be stating what you posted.The GK is in one of the most dangerous positions in play and without coaching the specifics of keeping themselves safe when collecting/diving for shots/diving at feet/jumping to catch high balls then you are abdicating your responsibility for the welfare of EVERY player you coach.Quote:"...My approach is simple. We have no (as in zero) specialized GK training".You say that like its a badge of honor - wow. You expect your GK to be safe and dive at the feet of opponents WITHOUT teaching them HOW to be safe etc. I'm sure the GKs parents will thank you for that?A GK should NEVER (yes there I go again) never be primarily used as a shot stopper.A GK is PRIMARILY the insurance should the players in front of them not be able to prevent a strike.Having fun where the GK dives like a lunatic while the players hit shot after shot before serious training begins is one thing, but deliberately running drills that ONLY include the GK as something to aim shots at is naive to say the least....and plain wrong.This is like putting a 10 year old into an empty swimming pool and then showing them how to swim and then expect them to do it properly when the pool is filled with water.If every coach followed YOUR logic then ALL the players would take turns in goal and it wouldnt matter a bit because they are all doing the same thing anyway.............
Could I ask if you were a player or GK when you played????I ask because your reply is typical of what I hear from even experienced coaches who were players when they played.Coaches who have had some experience as a GK have a completely different approach to the unique position of the GK.We call this type of coaching 'Ad Lib' and its like a comedian who goes off script....while its working everyone laughs until it all goes wrong and then....quote: "...[For some context, my older team---where this approach has been practiced for seven-plus years---is now high-level U17, and competitive with any club team on the east coast, so we're not talking about it working at (just) a recreational level.]You must have an incredible liability insurance cover if that is truly what you have run over the years.In the EPL, NO club would be able to get away with a development program operating like that or if they DID then it would cost the earth to have.qoute.."...PS: We also do not do any specialized attacking or defending sessions or activities where only the players who most often (or exclusively) play positions commonly associated with those roles participate in the respective activity. In our system, everybody participates fully and equally in ALL activities. In other words, other than for the GK as noted on a limited basis above, specialization only exists (somewhat, owing to relative positioning) on game day"Remember, I posted the thread about using GKs in a more positive way as a coach.Obviously you havent any special ways to intergrate GKs other than to let players shoot and shoot against them so fair enough, thats your viewpoint.
Well this is opening up a fairly good discussion; the value of "position-less" training and how it can translate into a "position-less" style of play. I could go on quite a bit about this, but let me just say for now:
I have adopted much of what you are saying about "everybody participates fully and equally in ALL activities". I train players to be complete all-around players and now all of the basic aspects of the game. "Be a complete player, play the complete game" is my mantra. However, I believe that this approach can be taken to an extreme at the detriment of players' long-term development. While it's true that there are principles of play that apply across the pitch and should be learned & mastered by all players, that doesn't change the fact that there are still roles, and with those roles come certain areas of emphasis and responsibility. For instance, I want my central backs to stay central and work together as a unit, and to make sure they are keeping the middle of the field protected. Outside forward or wingers have freedom to make diagonal runs, overlap & interchange with other players, send in crosses, etc. Attacking mids need to take on a play-making/distributing emphasis, and help control the tempo/pace of play, etc. All should know how to move in support of the teammate with the ball, to use first touch to set up the next pass or buy time, to apply pressure/cover when defending, etc. All players should know those basics, but not all will have the same role during match play (as described above), they have differing areas of emphasis depending on the role they are assigned at the time. At some point time needs to be taken to teach & train those things, and this applies perhaps more to goalkeepers than anyone else.So my question to you Azzurri, is if they are all doing the same generic activities and never do any training relative to the specific roles, who is going to teach them those things? Are you expecting that they just figure that out on their own?Great that you have had success with your method, but most coaches would find it more effective to use the approach I explained above.
When a flower doesn't bloom, fix the environment in which it grows, not the flower
Kev...I'll respond to your reply as soon as i get a chance.
"So everyone gets equal iterations at the back/mf role, the striker role, the 2nd attacker role, the defending role"
There are times when I do this, and part of it is because I do not have permanently assigned positions throughout the year, so on a given day a player might be on the back line, and the next time play striker. So across the team they need to learn the important concepts of play.But at some point I think there is a time & place for specific players to have extended time learning specific roles. I have girls that I know I'm going to look to start on the back line; it may be 5 or 6 total, but I know who they are, and unless most of them are gone on match day I'm not going to pick any of the others to play in the back. So if we are doing a session on building from the back, starting with keeper distribution, I am going to have those girls who I know will be playing in the back play in the back. I may interchange a couple during the session, but it will still be from that group of 5-6 players. Or, we may do a session on combination play/penetration in the attacking third. Same thing, certain players may get asked to play the attacking mid & forward roles, others not likely. And the likely backs will be on the back line for that activity so they know how to defend it. I believe they appreciate having the training time to get good at these things, and while the rest may not ever be asked to play in the role being emphasized (that year anyway), they can still watch & learn as the coaching points are made. Everybody benefits, but the role-specific training helps those who will most likely use it. Does that make sense?
Azzuri, positionless training creates positionless development.This is not reinventing the wheel here you know.Michels experimented with this in his Total Football concept in the 60s and 70sHe developed the idea from Jack Reynolds 'whirl' systemI liken this to Watercolor Painting and Oil painting.....watercolor is a one time coating so you have to get it right first time or its spoiled. Its fast, free flowing without responsibility whereas oil painting is progressive and painstaking in its application and if there's an error its okay to paint over the top of the error.
I'm all for players learning all the skills necessary to PLAY in all positions. Coaching is developing what players CAN do first and then coaching them to do what they CANNOT do.But the GK IS a specialist player. Just as you would give more time to hone a strikers technical ability to strike the ball, you must hone a goalkeepers abilities to keep the ball OUT.
I'll say it again......ALL players are hijacked to the ability level and experience of the coach who coaches them.Players will end up echoing the aspirations of the coach whereas the more experienced coaches will assess what their players strengths and weaknesses are and then see what playing jigsaw those players fit best.Then you physically get them as fit as possible to be able to play at their maximum for as long as possible.
These days, I find myself instinctively looking for problems and then challenging myself to come up with the right solutions.The hardest thing I find is NOT the players but the ego's of naive new inexperienced coaches who want the world NOW but dont want to pay the price.
Thanks, that was the kind of thing I was anticipating....appreciate it c17
And I'll put up some too.
Thats a comprehensive list of relevant activities there c17
One I like to run gets players to line up in their normal positions with the GK performing 1-2's with ALL in the fastest time out of three 'rounds'
X8 X7 X6 X5
After the three rounds, I then give the GK, X4 and X9 a ball and ALL must pass to the next X up (GK to X1, X1 TO X2, while X4 plays to X5, and X9 to X10 with X10 plying high to the GK.
The challenge now is to make sure no X is has no more than one ball to play.
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